Wand vs. Liddell

judonerd Black Belt You got choked the **** out! Posts: 179	Wand vs. Liddell Dec 27, 2007 2:11:56 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by judonerd on Dec 27, 2007 2:11:56 GMT -5 So, here it comes. Pride v. UFC. Wand versus Liddell. Who is going to win? Why? Anybody? I think rules are going to stop Wand from winning in the UFC. Who do you think is going to win?
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Carl Elder Administrator A reflection on a pool does not reveal it's depth. Posts: 319	Wand vs. Liddell Dec 29, 2007 1:48:40 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Carl Elder on Dec 29, 2007 1:48:40 GMT -5 I think wand is going to win, he trains like a beast!! and Chuck performance in his last two fights has been pretty poor.
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Wand vs. Liddell Dec 29, 2007 2:39:48 GMT -5

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Post by judonerd on Dec 29, 2007 2:39:48 GMT -5

Yeah, thats true. I think I'm iffie about Wand because of how Dan Henderson picked him apart. I want to see how Iceman handles the clinch, whether he tries to take Wand down, etc.

I also want to watch Sokoudjou fight. He's got a good opponent who is probably more prepared than Arona and Noguiera were.

I'd love some Pride victories too, after Shogun did so bad against Rich Franklin and Crocop choked.

"Those who sweat the most during peacetime are those that will bleed the least in war."

"Karate is a form of martial arts in which people who have had years and years of training can,
using only their hands and feet, make some of the worst movies in the history of the world."

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Wand vs. Liddell Dec 30, 2007 1:47:58 GMT -5

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Post by ninjamessiah on Dec 30, 2007 1:47:58 GMT -5

I was predicting wand too...though I just heard that chuck won by decision.

I think someone's paying off pride fighters to lose, or the whole ring-to-octagon transition is really that crippling to their game. I really am surprised that wand didn't lay him out, unless I guess chuck is back on his game now after his previous recent beatdowns.

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Wand vs. Liddell Dec 30, 2007 12:47:02 GMT -5

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Post by Carl Elder on Dec 30, 2007 12:47:02 GMT -5

Yeah, Wand wasnt his usual aggressive self in the fight, there was one time when he rocked chuck but hesitated jumping all over him. I think thats what lost him the fight. Chuck did very well though and looked like the chuck of old. The matt hughes GSP fight was awesome to

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Wand vs. Liddell Jan 7, 2008 10:20:11 GMT -5

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Post by judonerd on Jan 7, 2008 10:20:11 GMT -5

i personally think Wand has officially taken too many shots to the head to be as sharp as he used to be. Liddell destroyed him with counter punches. There was ONE moment where it looked like Wand might get his Thai clinch going and be able to really do his thing, but Iceman shook him off hard.

Also, at this point, Wand's looping punches are becoming predictable.

Oh, and Sokoudjou looked like a weak, punk *****. He was so lame in there it hurt.

As far as the Pride/UFC thing, the two beltholders, Rampage and Anderson Silva, definetely show that Pride can hold its own. Wand and Crocop both needed to retire. Shogun will be back.

I do think the cage/ring thing is huge. UFC fighters never did well in Pride either.

"Those who sweat the most during peacetime are those that will bleed the least in war."

"Karate is a form of martial arts in which people who have had years and years of training can,
using only their hands and feet, make some of the worst movies in the history of the world."

judonerd Black Belt You got choked the **** out! Posts: 179	Wand vs. Liddell Jan 8, 2008 14:01:21 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by judonerd on Jan 8, 2008 14:01:21 GMT -5 www.graciemag.com/news/144/ARTICLE/9095/2008-01-08.html Good interview with Wand that covers a lot of things we already speculated on here...
	"Those who sweat the most during peacetime are those that will bleed the least in war." "Karate is a form of martial arts in which people who have had years and years of training can, using only their hands and feet, make some of the worst movies in the history of the world."

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Post by Carl Elder on Dec 29, 2007 1:48:40 GMT -5

Post by judonerd on Dec 29, 2007 2:39:48 GMT -5

Post by ninjamessiah on Dec 30, 2007 1:47:58 GMT -5

Post by Carl Elder on Dec 30, 2007 12:47:02 GMT -5

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